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	<title>Comments on: The Journey Of St. Laurent, Chapter 20</title>
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		<title>By: Ballsack McNasty</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-6216</link>
		<dc:creator>Ballsack McNasty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Oct 2009 15:47:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now, I must first admit that I could be wrong here, but I think you are using the comma in an incorrect way often times in your writing, such as this example from the beginning of this chapter:

-The hospital was a two story brick job, and judging by the color choice and the wear, it was last painted sometime in the seventies.- Here, the comma before &quot;and&quot; is acceptable (I think) because of the whole &quot;because of this, then this&quot; method of thought.

-The windows were small, and gave the place an old institutional look.- Here, the comma before &quot;and&quot; is out of place.

I have seen this a few times, but just now thought to post anything about it. For the record, I am not 100% sure about the first example.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now, I must first admit that I could be wrong here, but I think you are using the comma in an incorrect way often times in your writing, such as this example from the beginning of this chapter:</p>
<p>-The hospital was a two story brick job, and judging by the color choice and the wear, it was last painted sometime in the seventies.- Here, the comma before &#8220;and&#8221; is acceptable (I think) because of the whole &#8220;because of this, then this&#8221; method of thought.</p>
<p>-The windows were small, and gave the place an old institutional look.- Here, the comma before &#8220;and&#8221; is out of place.</p>
<p>I have seen this a few times, but just now thought to post anything about it. For the record, I am not 100% sure about the first example.</p>
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		<title>By: Toothy</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-5990</link>
		<dc:creator>Toothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 21:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like it... Keep it up. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like it&#8230; Keep it up. <img src='http://www.storyhack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Beattie</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-5967</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Aug 2009 01:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I get plenty of encouragement. Sometimes I just need to be slapped with the &quot;Thou salt not write in a passive voice&quot; fish.

I actually post most chapters raw. Sometimes I&#039;m just better at writing than others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I get plenty of encouragement. Sometimes I just need to be slapped with the &#8220;Thou salt not write in a passive voice&#8221; fish.</p>
<p>I actually post most chapters raw. Sometimes I&#8217;m just better at writing than others.</p>
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		<title>By: DarcKnyt</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-5966</link>
		<dc:creator>DarcKnyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 22:52:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just re-read my comment and I think I came off as a jerk. I&#039;m sorry, Bryce.  I sort of flitted through trying to &quot;help&quot; with typos, but didn&#039;t take the time to say anything encouraging.

This isn&#039;t a bad or sleepy piece, I just meant this is another eased pace installment. Don&#039;t think it&#039;s boring, it&#039;s not.  I&#039;ve always enjoyed your writing, and despite what I said above, this is no exception.  Your style is clear, tight, very readable and enjoyable.  All of that comes through.

Also, I somehow missed the part in your preamble about how you posted this raw, unedited.  I&#039;m sorry I didn&#039;t catch that, because I had time yesterday (Friday) to help you edit, and would&#039;ve been happy to do so.

Sorry again, Bryce.  This isn&#039;t awful, and I don&#039;t want to come off sounding like it is.  As always, if I offend, please forgive me.  I was genuinely trying to help, and sometimes I think I&#039;m just a jerk that way.

Anyway, one thing for sure, I&#039;m excited about next week.  I like the direction this is taking, and I can&#039;t wait for some confrontations with zombie ETs.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just re-read my comment and I think I came off as a jerk. I&#8217;m sorry, Bryce.  I sort of flitted through trying to &#8220;help&#8221; with typos, but didn&#8217;t take the time to say anything encouraging.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t a bad or sleepy piece, I just meant this is another eased pace installment. Don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s boring, it&#8217;s not.  I&#8217;ve always enjoyed your writing, and despite what I said above, this is no exception.  Your style is clear, tight, very readable and enjoyable.  All of that comes through.</p>
<p>Also, I somehow missed the part in your preamble about how you posted this raw, unedited.  I&#8217;m sorry I didn&#8217;t catch that, because I had time yesterday (Friday) to help you edit, and would&#8217;ve been happy to do so.</p>
<p>Sorry again, Bryce.  This isn&#8217;t awful, and I don&#8217;t want to come off sounding like it is.  As always, if I offend, please forgive me.  I was genuinely trying to help, and sometimes I think I&#8217;m just a jerk that way.</p>
<p>Anyway, one thing for sure, I&#8217;m excited about next week.  I like the direction this is taking, and I can&#8217;t wait for some confrontations with zombie ETs.  <img src='http://www.storyhack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jordan Johnson</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-5965</link>
		<dc:creator>Jordan Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 19:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>another great chapter Bryce. I&#039;m really enjoying this series. I can&#039;t wait untill the next chapter</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>another great chapter Bryce. I&#8217;m really enjoying this series. I can&#8217;t wait untill the next chapter</p>
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		<title>By: Bryce Beattie</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-5964</link>
		<dc:creator>Bryce Beattie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 07:49:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the thoughts, DarcKnyt. This is one of the issues I have with posting &quot;from the hip&quot; as I write this. Some stuff just doesn&#039;t come out the way I intended. Oh, well.

I&#039;ve fixed the typos you mentioned in the text above, and made a bunch of changes in my master copy of the story in an effort to stamp out the passive voice stuff. I may post the redone chapter before next Friday. 

Thanks again. I really appreciate your input.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the thoughts, DarcKnyt. This is one of the issues I have with posting &#8220;from the hip&#8221; as I write this. Some stuff just doesn&#8217;t come out the way I intended. Oh, well.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve fixed the typos you mentioned in the text above, and made a bunch of changes in my master copy of the story in an effort to stamp out the passive voice stuff. I may post the redone chapter before next Friday. </p>
<p>Thanks again. I really appreciate your input.</p>
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		<title>By: DarcKnyt</title>
		<link>http://www.storyhack.com/2009/08/28/the-journey-of-st-laurent-chapter-20/comment-page-1/#comment-5962</link>
		<dc:creator>DarcKnyt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Aug 2009 03:29:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, this took the pace in a new direction, and after the slow-down of the last chapter, this one started getting a little sleepy.  I&#039;m intrigued by the home birth idea, since both my kids were home-birthed.  ;)

Not much to say; this is a transitional scene, it&#039;s hard to comment.  It&#039;s moving along, and I&#039;m looking forward to more next week!

Now, your favorite part.  First, typos:

&lt;i&gt;The windows were small, and &lt;b&gt;game&lt;/b&gt; the place an old institutional look.&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;gave&quot;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...Tell me &lt;b&gt;what&lt;/b&gt; going on with the hospital while I look at your hand.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;what&#039;s&quot;

&lt;i&gt;I &lt;b&gt;sat down the cooler&lt;/b&gt; and ...&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;sat down ON the cooler&quot;?  &quot;SET down the cooler&quot;?  Writer&#039;s choice, I reckon.  :)

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...They said they’re &lt;b&gt;keep&lt;/b&gt; the door locked until they can get a shipment of supplies.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;keepING&quot; or &quot;going to keep&quot;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...superglue or anything, so there’s &lt;b&gt;no&lt;/b&gt; much I can do for you.&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;not&quot;

&lt;i&gt;&quot;...And if the supply truck doesn’t get here, well&lt;b&gt;-&lt;/b&gt;&quot;&lt;/i&gt;
I&#039;m pretty sure if he&#039;s trailing off, this should be an ellipsis.  The em dash indicates he was cut off.

&lt;i&gt;I couldn’t believe how shallow &lt;b&gt;she&lt;/b&gt; being.&lt;/i&gt;
Okay, this is an awkward sentence; I think you should consider re-wording, but this would be better stated along the lines of &quot;I couldn&#039;t believe her selfishness.&quot;  In addition, in light of her actions, I thought CORBIN showed the most selfishness here.  I think he made a pretty drastic leap, and would like to see something trip him over to believe London&#039;s about to be selfish.  Corbin hides his ego and egocentricity behind being a nurse and &quot;helping&quot; people, but it looks in THIS scene like perhaps it&#039;s just to make HIMSELF feel better about who he is.  Just sayin&#039;, I didn&#039;t see anything in London&#039;s behavior to make him start down this road in the first place.  :)

&lt;i&gt;&quot;&lt;b&gt;Liston&lt;/b&gt; to me, you idiot...&lt;/i&gt;
&quot;Listen&quot;

Okay, that&#039;s it for typos.  I&#039;d suggest a pass through the word processor&#039;s search and replace feature.  You&#039;ve got a LOT of passive verb forms in this one, B; &quot;to be&quot; forms are heavy, and there&#039;s a fair amount of past perfect usage too.  I&#039;d love to see you run through and solidify some of those (okay, most of those) with basic simple past-tense forms.  It&#039;ll add to the action.

If you want specific examples let me know, I&#039;ll see if I can help.  This chapter&#039;s pretty thick with &#039;em though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, this took the pace in a new direction, and after the slow-down of the last chapter, this one started getting a little sleepy.  I&#8217;m intrigued by the home birth idea, since both my kids were home-birthed.  <img src='http://www.storyhack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Not much to say; this is a transitional scene, it&#8217;s hard to comment.  It&#8217;s moving along, and I&#8217;m looking forward to more next week!</p>
<p>Now, your favorite part.  First, typos:</p>
<p><i>The windows were small, and <b>game</b> the place an old institutional look.</i><br />
&#8220;gave&#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;Tell me <b>what</b> going on with the hospital while I look at your hand.&#8221;</i><br />
&#8220;what&#8217;s&#8221;</p>
<p><i>I <b>sat down the cooler</b> and &#8230;</i><br />
&#8220;sat down ON the cooler&#8221;?  &#8220;SET down the cooler&#8221;?  Writer&#8217;s choice, I reckon.  <img src='http://www.storyhack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;They said they’re <b>keep</b> the door locked until they can get a shipment of supplies.&#8221;</i><br />
&#8220;keepING&#8221; or &#8220;going to keep&#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;superglue or anything, so there’s <b>no</b> much I can do for you.&#8221;</i><br />
&#8220;not&#8221;</p>
<p><i>&#8220;&#8230;And if the supply truck doesn’t get here, well<b>-</b>&#8220;</i><br />
I&#8217;m pretty sure if he&#8217;s trailing off, this should be an ellipsis.  The em dash indicates he was cut off.</p>
<p><i>I couldn’t believe how shallow <b>she</b> being.</i><br />
Okay, this is an awkward sentence; I think you should consider re-wording, but this would be better stated along the lines of &#8220;I couldn&#8217;t believe her selfishness.&#8221;  In addition, in light of her actions, I thought CORBIN showed the most selfishness here.  I think he made a pretty drastic leap, and would like to see something trip him over to believe London&#8217;s about to be selfish.  Corbin hides his ego and egocentricity behind being a nurse and &#8220;helping&#8221; people, but it looks in THIS scene like perhaps it&#8217;s just to make HIMSELF feel better about who he is.  Just sayin&#8217;, I didn&#8217;t see anything in London&#8217;s behavior to make him start down this road in the first place.  <img src='http://www.storyhack.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p><i>&#8220;<b>Liston</b> to me, you idiot&#8230;</i><br />
&#8220;Listen&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, that&#8217;s it for typos.  I&#8217;d suggest a pass through the word processor&#8217;s search and replace feature.  You&#8217;ve got a LOT of passive verb forms in this one, B; &#8220;to be&#8221; forms are heavy, and there&#8217;s a fair amount of past perfect usage too.  I&#8217;d love to see you run through and solidify some of those (okay, most of those) with basic simple past-tense forms.  It&#8217;ll add to the action.</p>
<p>If you want specific examples let me know, I&#8217;ll see if I can help.  This chapter&#8217;s pretty thick with &#8216;em though.</p>
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